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Wherein "We Hunted The Mammoth" warns us about the latest phenomenon in disgruntled manhood: arguing that rape is justified. TW: everything.

Originally posted by [livejournal.com profile] manboobz_rss at “Philosophy of Rape” site argues that “whores and feminazis need to be put in their place through ra

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Last year, I wrote about a repellant little “community” on Reddit: the PhilosophyofRape subreddit, devoted to promoting what it called the corrective rape of “filthy, unmitigated, sluts … [t]hat badly need to be punished. Badly.”


Reddit being what it is, the subreddit remains up to this day. And now the folks behind it have taken their repugnant “philosophy” to the web. Earlier this week, one of the subreddit’s numerous moderators, a veritable cauldron of bigotries who calls himself European88, announced the grand opening of a new Philosophy of Rape website. He urged his fellow “philosophers” to “[s]ubscribe and submit your rape tips … !” 


Like the subreddit before it, the site declares war on “harpies,” “hussies,” “[d]ecrepid filth, dressed like hookers and reaking like vodka” and “Belligerent. Entitled. Selfie taking, Tindr-whoring, Teenage-walking-herpes-sores.”


The “philosophers” also take aim at “vain, vile, venemous, femenist, filth,” particularly


[t]he kind who get conferences to talk about mens suicide rates shut down. The type of hussies who have lobbied effectively to remove due process from proceedings against men on college campuses.


In  a post titled “Why is Rape Necessary,” the site sets forth its case for “correction.” (I’ve bolded the worst bits.)


1) Rape did serve important, healthy, and natural biological purposes historically in limiting the extent to which female bad behavior can go.


2. Women in many ways are like children, and most can not self-regulate very well, so in the absence of something like parents or a natural limiting force like rape, they just run amok and destroy their selves and everything they touch.


3. Because rape is so completely arm-barred back by the state, and feminism has grown to be this infestation that caused even the social consequences for female behavior to dissappear, we find ourselves in a precarious situation. Unbridled female sluttishness, entitlement, narcissism, vileness and destruction gone viral.


4. Such women need to be Corrected. Humbled. Brought back down to a healthy place and realistic mindset. For their own good as well as that of those around them. That particular corrective action is quite clear, the one that used to naturally limit the behavior: rape.


5. We are here to provide encouragement and advice how to do that and do it safely. Regression analysis to find out which variables make it less likely to get into legal trouble. Very few women report the rapes, what can you do to make it even less likely? Example: remind the victim that “no one will believe them”. When they orgasm (which is actually very common during rape, Google it) speak up and let them know that you are aware of it and that it will come out during trial if they reported it.


Yes, that’s right. After complaining that the feminist “infestation” has enabled “unbridled” female awfulness by drastically reducing the “natural limiting force [of] rape,” the rape “philosophers” acknowledge that most men who rape women face zero consequences for their action. Indeed, in another post, one “philosopher” declares that


We want to teach men that although it may be easier than ever for an innocent man to be convicted of rape when a consensual partner has buyers remorse, it’s also easier than ever for a guilty man to get away Scott free – so long as it’s done the way we advocate: actual rape-rape, as in dark-alley, ski mask, stranger rape.


Emphasis mine. Some of the rape “tips” offered on the site are wholly unoriginal:


Tell the harlot that you come from a rich family and that she will never successfully convict you of raping her in court.  Tell her that, if she tries to sue you, you will counter-sue for a huge amount of money that will bankrupt her.


Pretty sure that one’s been used before.


Tell the harlot that, if she tells the police about the rape, you will kill her entire family.  If she has children, tell her that you will rape her children before killing them.


That one too.


Other tips are little more than sadistic fantasies:


Put sugar into the harlot’s vagina to give her a yeast infection.  This will be a mark of shame on her that she will be unable to forget, and she will have to relive the rape every time she seeks treatment for it. …


After raping the harlot, steal her clothes and write “WHORE” on her chest with a red marker.  She will be forced to walk around naked with “WHORE” written on her chest, and it will be extremely humiliating for her.


Whether these rape “philosophers” are actually living out their repellant philosophy, I couldn’t tell you. They insist that they’re quite sincere.


Indeed, in a posting on slutHATE, one rape “philosopher” assured skeptics that


The Philosophy of Rape is as serious as a heart attack. We are a movement of angry, fed-up men – much like you – who have decided to take matters into our own hands. The simple fact of the matter is, simply sitting around and complaining about sluts on the Internet isn’t going to change anything. We need real-world action to correct the slut problem. That’s why The Philosophy of Rape was created. Sluts need real-world punishment, and we want to train an army of holy warriors to dish out that punishment. Your chances of getting caught are already slim, and we will teach you how to make 100% sure that you don’t get caught. 


In another comment, he reported that while


I can’t openly admit to how many harlots I’ve corrected, but let’s just say that I do indeed practice what I preach.


He offered this lovely bit of advice to anyone thinking of following in his (alleged) footsteps:


It definitely helps if you build up to the act. Keep edging closer and closer to rape until you’re finally ready to do the deed. For example, send a harlot an anonymous message telling her you’re gonna rape her, then write “HARLOT” on her car, then finally rape her when the moment is right. Build up your courage by first committing smaller acts.


He urged others to take up his peculiar fight for, er, justice:


We are going to build an army of holy warriors to correct harlots and feminazi whores around the world. All it takes is a few Elliot Rodger types to get the ball rolling. What do you have to lose? Enlist in our rape army today, and we will teach you how to correct a new harlot a week and get away with it.


Apparently unafraid of legal consequences, the person posting all this gave what he said was his real name, claiming to be “Brother” Dean Saxton, a campus “activist” of sorts who several years ago caused a stir after holding a one-man protest at the University of Arizona, holding a sign reading “You Deserve Rape.”


In another thread, “Brother Dean” explained why he felt this slogan was so effective in angering feminists: .


NOTHING pisses off feminazis more than reminding them that they are filthy harlots who desperately need to be – and, deep down, WANT TO BE – raped.


He went on to explain why the kind of rape he advocates is the most public-spirited of all the different varieties of rape:


N*ggers rape because they are feral animals who cannot control their primitive biological urges. We rape because we are holy warriors on a mission to correct harlots and purge society of unmitigated female entitlement. The Philosophy of Rape is, ultimately, about fixing society. The only way to correct harlots and feminazis is by raping them.


If “Brother Dean” is European88, he’s kept himself busy since his college protest as a moderator of 157 of Reddit’s most loathsome subreddits, including /r/CoonTown, /r/WhiteRights,  /r/nazi, /r/GasTheKikes, /r/Chimpout, /r/StormfrontForums and the lovely /r/N*ggerSafari.


Some of the slutHATE regulars dismissed “Brother Dean” as “disinfo” and “just another frustrated virgin in his basement spreading shit.” frenchy91, for his part, noted that


while i really don’t give a shit who you could rape as long as it’s not my girlfriend, nor familly member, i think you op should get raped by a group of n*ggers, just to know how it feels, then you could objectively speak about who diserve it or not. for now, you just sound like a desperate mysogincel


This is apparently what passes for a “moderate” position on slutHATE. Others there found Brother Dean’s message inspirational. A commenter calling himself mvp wrote that


i definitely support this movement


its time to fight back


“Fuck it,” wrote another. “I’ll rape a bitch for you.”


It would be easy enough to dismiss all of this as nothing more than the ridiculous fantasies of “frustrated virgin[s]” or the work of trolls. I really hope that’s all it is.


But we should remember that slutHATE is essentially a reincarnation of PUAhate, an online forum that was frequented by a young man named, yes, Elliot Rodger, who posted similarly hateful and similarly implausible-sounding comments there before setting out one evening a little over a year ago, intending to “slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blonde slut” in a popular sorority house at the University of California, Santa Barbara.


H/T — MoonMetropolis


 


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Wherein it's pointed out that teenage girls get lots of crap too. (Relevant to the Scott Aaronson thread.)


Originally posted by [livejournal.com profile] lovejoyfeminism at “Hey, Dreamboat!”: Teenage Girls Get Mocked Too

I wrote a week ago about conversations within gaming, fandom, and nerd culture over dating and social reclusiveness. Specifically, I looked at a post by a self-described “nerdy guy” about his adolescent and young adult anger toward women for not dating him and a response post by a self-described “nerdy girl” pointing out that guys aren’t the only ones to be shy, socially awkward, and thwarted in love. Today I want to build on that conversation with another point.

I’ve seen men online (and, sadly, in real life) talk as if women had it easy in romance, and could get a guy by snapping their fingers. They talk about being mocked or made fun of by teenage girls, as though that sort of mocking goes one way only—and as if the girls hold all the cards. For too many of these nerdy adolescent and young adult men, I see an unwillingness to consider the suffering of anyone but themselves.

(I should note that there are plenty of nerdy guys who do treat women with respect, including my own husband, Sean. I should have Sean tell his story here sometime. I was talking to him about this recently and he told me that when he left high school, he made the decision to clean up his act and change how he came across—to master the social skills he felt he lacked. Importantly, his failure to get a date in high school never translated into any sort of resentment or entitlement toward women.)

I noticed something interesting in the comments on my post last week. While I was homeschooled and didn’t have much contact with teenage guys my own age, some of the commenters wrote of their experiences being harassed and heckled by the teenage guys they grew up around. Here’s a comment from reader Nea (here):

A common insult when I was an early teen was for a boy to yell “Hey, Dreamboat!” near you, and if you looked over, laugh nastily and say “Not YOU, Shipwreck!” Even (especially) if you were the only female around.

And then this from onamission5 (here):

I got, “wanna dance?” or “wanna date?” and if I answered in the affirmative, it was, “well maybe someone will ask you.” Cue them walking off to their friend group laughing.

Some nerdy guys seem to think being a woman means getting dates and sex whenever we want. First of all, this is not true (seriously, how many women spent years pining over a guy who never gives them a second look?). But second, this completely ignores the mocking and bulling women face for their gender. onamission5 added this (here):

I honestly don’t know how to choose between boys barking, mooing, (and if I didn’t respond, escalating to pawing) at me in the halls, then laughing when I got upset, or guys behaving aggressively if I didn’t respond to their unwanted advances in the way they predetermined I ought. Either way I get my boundaries violated, either way I get to be disrespected as a person due to someone else’s perceptions of my gender, either way the world is not a safe place. It’s just unsafe for different reasons. And then guys wonder why we don’t always want to talk to them. It’s because someone who seems nice at first can become decidedly Not Nice in a flash, and it’s impossible to always tell who is capable of what.

To a nerdy guy, finding romance (or sex) may look labyrinthian or even impossible, but to a nerdy girl (and often to any girl at all), existing while female can be like navigating through a mine field.

One last thing I want to add. There was a new commenter on my post of a week ago asking for advice on getting dates and so forth, but it quickly became apparent that his approach was part of his problem. He kept talking about what “women” want and what “women” are looking for, and treating romance as some sort of code he needed to crack and solve. As a woman, I find this incredibly off-putting. I don’t want to be approached as a puzzle to solve, I want to be approached as a person. We women are not a foreign species, and I for one would rather not be treated as one.

I suppose my main message here is that nerdy guys who feel thwarted in love and romance (and sex) need to stop for a moment and reconsider what it is like to go through life as a woman—and as a teenage girl. We don’t hold all of the cards any more than they do, and all too often we hold fewer. We shouldn’t have to deal with entitlement and resentment on top of everything else.

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My eyes rolled so hard watching this trailer that I sprained my eyeballs. Details below.

Originally posted by [livejournal.com profile] manboobz_rss at A proposed new anti-Anita Sarkeesian “documentary” promises to give voice to the loudest “silent maj

I don’t usually post raw videos from the insufferable assholes I write about on this site because, well, they’re insufferable assholes, and listening to them smugly opine about shit they’re completely ignorant about is generally about as entertaining as, you know, GirlWritesWhat videos. (I know, that’s a bit circular, but I really couldn’t come up with anything more insufferable than that.)


Anyhoo, I’ve broken my rule and posted this video because the two guys who made this video — the would-be filmmaking duo of jordanowen42 and Davis Aurini — are so over-the-top in their insufferable assholism that it’s actually kind of perversely charming.


You see, these two woman-hating YouTube blabbers — the first a belligerent doofus whose apartment is nearly as unkempt as mine, the other a sort of PUA version of Anton LaVey — are pitching what they claim will be an important new documentary exposing the evil “Social Justice Warrior” agenda of evil women and traitor men like Anita Sarkeesian, Zoe Quinn, and, well, I can’t remember the names of any of the men. It’s called The Sarkeesian Effect. And they want your money to fund it.


Their promised “feature-length documentary” will be a powerful work of investigative journalism that will give a voice to the voiceless — to the “silent majority” of, well, angry white dudes who spend whatever time they don’t spend playing video games posting obnoxious and abusive comments about Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn to YouTube and Reddit and eleven zillion other websites that cater to them.


In other words, this is the loudest “silent majority” I’ve ever run across.


But these are guys who love to pretend that their bold thoughts are being silenced, and PUA Anton LaVey Davis Aurini happily panders to their persecution complex:


Don’t let these people silence us. Your contribution will be a defiant strike against the degeneration and corruption that is going on in this world.


The word “degeneration” helps remind us that Aurini considers himself a part of the neo-Nazi-lite “Dark Enlightenment.”


Anyway, they argue that you should send them lots of money, because PUA Anton LaVey’s suits can’t be cheap you’ll be striking a blow for every dude who’s ever called Anita Sarkeesian a “whore” in a YouTube comment. Well, they don’t literally put it that way, but, you know, come on. That’s what they mean.


And hey, who wouldn’t trust this dude with their hard-earned cash?


Send me your money! Heh heh heh heh heh.

Send me your money! Heh heh heh heh heh.


I found this video hilarious from start to finish. Stick with it at least until, a little after 6 minutes in, PUA Anton LaVey Aurini lights up his second cigarette, showing what a devil-may-care attitude he has by mumbling his lines with a cigarette in his mouth as he fiddles with his lighter.


Yep, that’s the kind of quality investigative  journalism you can expect from these two.


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Six years ago I started the blog "The Pill Saves Lives" to record the stories of women whose lives were saved -- literally or otherwise -- by birth control pills. This was in reaction to the American Life League's "The Pill Kills" day. I had big dreams, but the blog was never touched again after the first day...until yesterday when Jackie emailed me her story. You can read her story here.

Jackie reached out to me for a reason. It turns out that the pro-life movement is back at it, this time trying to promote #ThePillKills on social media. There is, of course, a counter-movement to promote #ThePillSaves. I've decided to promote the old blog again --- now with some new content --- to highlight the ways that the pill has made people's lives better.
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The Oregonian has this story on the revival of the Equal Rights Amendment:

Sponsors of the Oregon Equal Rights Amendment have gathered more than 155,000 signatures and continue to collect more.

The campaign needs to submit 116,284 valid signatures by July 3 for the initiative to qualify for the Nov. 4 ballot. The campaign expects to hear back soon from the Oregon Secretary of State's Office as to whether signatures submitted by May 23 will be enough to qualify for the ballot.

Until then, signature gatherers continue to be out in force.


If you're a registered Oregon voter, you can sign and turn in a single-serving petition to include the ERA on the November ballot. If you haven't signed a petition yet, let me encourage you to sign the single-serving petition ASAP and mail it in. July third is just a few weeks away.

Meanwhile, the ERA is moving forward in Illinois, thirty-plus years after Governor Thompson helped to kill it.

There is no guarantee that the ERA will become part of the Constitution after 38 states ratify it. The ERA of the late 1970s had a deadline of 1979, which was later extended to 1982. Congress can remove that deadline. Of course, Congress has to want to remove that deadline. Even then, we'll almost certainly see a court challenge. So, this isn't going to be easy. But it's about time it's done.
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Because I have a morbid curiosity about broken men --- maybe because I came close to being a broken man so many times myself --- I took the time to read Elliot Rodger's 141 page manifesto. If you really want to read it yourself, go ahead. I don't necessarily recommend it. That said, here's my impressions.


  • Misogyny was unquestionably his primary motive. "But then again, women's rejection of me was a declaration of war." - Elliot Rodger's manifesto, p 124. Statements like this are on almost every page of his manifesto. They include a paragraph about how if he were dictator he would take every woman, put them into concentration camps, keep a few for a secret breeding program, and literally watch the rest starve to death. His misogyny is clear as day. Anyone who denies that this was his primary motive simply doesn't know what they're talking about.

  • He hated women because he felt entitled to their company. He hated them because they "denied" him their company --- probably because he scared the shit out of them. He hated women, too, because they would hang out with other guys --- probably because those guys didn't scare the shit out of them.

  • He hated men, too, but only insofar as they had the things he wanted. Most of all, he hated any man who enjoyed sex with a woman.

  • By implication, any claim that he was acting out homosexual impulses is just plain wrong. "Who the hell would claim that?!?" you ask. Why, this person. On Fox News. Naturally.

  • There's nothing to indicate that he was criminally insane. He might have had diagnosable emotional disorders --- depression, borderline personality, or the like --- and we can guess that he had Aspurger's from his videos. But there's nothing to indicate that he lost touch with reality on the one hand, or was a sociopath on the other. To the extent he was mentally ill or neuro-atypical, it wasn't a significant factor in his actions. Dismissing him as a "nutjob" doesn't really address the problems he had, which were problems primarily with his point of view.

  • It's likely that he would have committed this massacre even if he couldn't buy guns. It's not just that half of his victims were stabbed, not shot. The sheer vitriol of his manifesto is such that if he didn't have a gun, he'd have found another way to cause lots of casualties. He spent $1800 on two handguns --- that kind of money buys a lot of glass bottles and gasoline.

  • His attempts to improve his odds with women focused on material manifestations of success, that is to say, better clothes, a better car, more money. He never appeared to make a concerted effort to improve his social skills. It speaks to a very cynical view of what women value about the men in their lives, which was doubtless based on his own insecurities. Unfortunately, it's doubtful that any of the web sites he visited, including PUAHate, would have helped him develop a better model.

  • His idea of meeting girls was, apparently, to walk around in nice clothing and hope they'd talk to him. Seriously. It should be noted that he never mentioned using the usual pick up artist (PUA) games for meeting women. This is not to defend the PUAs, simply to point out that there's some validity to their claim that he wasn't one of their disciples. It should also be noted that his parents tried to get him therapy to improve his social skills, but by that point his worldview was too toxic to form a decent working relationship with any of them. He rejected the first therapist because he had sex with four different women, which made him a scumbag in his world. He enjoyed the company of his second such therapist, a blonde woman, but didn't take his therapy seriously because he saw her more as a "rent-a-friend" than a professional; and eschewed female therapists after that, as no different, for his purposes, from hiring a prostitute. And so on.

  • It's unlikely that "learning game," as the PUAs put it, would have improved his attitudes toward women or made him less toxic. The key here is his sense of entitlement. The process of finding a companion that's good for you and vice versa is grueling for all but the luckiest people, and hard for everyone. Mistakes, especially early on, are common, and often emotionally devastating. Even smart, sweet people can end up with liars, bullies, the insane, and the toxic; but on the other hand, breaking off with someone who's bad for you is just harrowing. Given his already damaged point of view, it's likely that a breakup, especially a painful one, would have just made things worse, or even driven him towards a violent reaction sooner.

  • It's unlikely that losing his virginity would have changed him much. See above.

  • He tried using "The Secret" to get things that he thought would make him more attractive. His success rate was, as one might expect, decidedly mixed. In particular he tried to use The Law Of Attraction to win the lottery, to get the kind of money that he thought would make him attractive to women. It didn't work out, which is pretty typical of snake oil. (It is notable that he never wrote about using the Law Of Attraction to find female company --- which, unlike the lottery example, might have actually worked, insofar as it changed his mindset to a more successful one.)



In short, his point of view was undeniably toxic, obviously misogynist, narcissistic, and perhaps worst of all, internally consistent. It was inspired on painful early experiences, founded on bad assumptions, and sustained with bad information, and accelerated with unabashed arrogance. He was a bomb waiting to go off. And it is unlikely that new or different experiences would have been able to change his mind.

So, what do we do about future Elliot Rodgers? Stay tuned.
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Last night 14 people were shot and seven died on the campus of the University of California at Santa Barbara. The alleged shooter apparently posted this video before the shooting started. (Edit: his family's lawyer has revealed that the person in this video, Elliot Rodger, is indeed last night's mass murderer.)



The video alone reveals this kid’s problems. He’s not bad looking and he obviously has money, but he's creepy and obviously angry. Women have learned to sense that from a mile away. (They have to — it’s a matter of survival, after all.) He doesn’t bother to get to know women before making sexual advances on them. It’s no wonder he died a 22 year old virgin. He was doing the whole dating and sex thing wrong. All of it.

He thinks he’s entitled to sex and affection because he’s a “gentleman." And really, what gentleman doesn’t murder six total strangers because he’s sexually frustrated?

He thinks he has a right to get laid. I'm not making that up --- he actually states this in the video. Since when does anyone have a right to get laid? Where the hell did he get that idea?

And then he has the temerity to think that he's the "real alpha male" because he has a handgun and is willing to use it on total strangers that mean him no harm. There is, of course, nothing "alpha male" about that. A 90 year old woman with arthritis and sufficient motivation could theoretically do the same thing.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: we're failing our boys as a society. Nobody taught this kid how to be a man who respects others, or in particular how to treat the women he wants in his life. Nobody taught him how to deal with frustration, or how to express his manhood other than behaving as a wild, violent animal. Instead he picked up that dangerous trope that we see over and over again, that violence is an acceptable way to reclaim and assert one's manhood when other avenues fail.

We're still not having a serious conversation about this. People are still dying as a result.
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Manboobz --- to which one of my friends introduced me a few months ago, and which has quickly become one of my favorite blogs --- is now We Hunted The Mammoth. Why?

“We Hunted the Mammoth” is such a wonderful distillation
of this entire clusterfuck of misogyny, entitlement and unwarranted
self-importance – not to mention historical ignorance – that when I
decided to rename the blog it was the obvious choice.


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